These bikes may be more affordable for the rider, but it must have cost a lot of money to Norco. :( Those "twisty" tubes from last year (only used for one model year) required (very) expensive molds and process, and going to a new shape for 2010 (also hydroformed) will induce the same costs. That's surely the reason why they're sharing those tubes on different models, making them thicker or thinner not being the most expensive part of the process. I hope for them they will sell lots of these 2010 models...